Chắc cụ chưa đọc báo cáo của JIT
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Then, two scenarios remained:
First, the possibility that flight MH17 had been shot down by another airplane equipped with a weapon system. This is the air-to-air scenario.
In the investigation so far, we have come to the conclusion that we can also rule out the air-to-air scenario.
What follows is the explanation about how we reached that conclusion.
If flight MH17 would have been shot down by another airplane, this plane would have been shown on the radar images. There has been quite some discussion about the radar data. The JIT has acquired sufficient and crucial radar images. These images were made available to the JIT by both Ukraine and the Russian Federation. Recently, through intensive investigation, the JIT found another video file containing relevant primary radar data of the area which had been recorded by a mobile radar in Ukraine. At the time, this radar was used to test new software. Although it had a limited range, it still detected flight MH17 and this completes the image further.
As far as we are concerned, the discussion about the radar images can be concluded. Today we wish to emphasize that the material that we now have is more than sufficient to draw conclusions in the criminal investigation. For building up a solid criminal file, it will not be necessary to gather more evidentiary material.
In addition to the radar images that we have, witnesses have been heard, such as the air traffic controllers who were working at that time; the JIT has an audio file of the conversations between the Ukrainian air traffic controllers and the airplanes that passed through the Ukrainian airspace on 17 July 2014, including flight MH17.
All these data together provide a sufficiently complete picture of the air traffic in the direct vicinity of flight MH17 and based on this picture the JIT concludes that there was no other aircraft flying in the vicinity of flight MH17 that could have shot it down. This conclusion in itself can already rule out that scenario.
The Russian Federation mentioned last week that they have found ‘new’ primary radar images. Based on those images even the Russian Federation concludes that there was no second airplane that could have shot down MH17.
Moreover, there is much other evidence that contributes to the evidence of the final scenario, being: Flight MH17 was shot down by a ground based air defence system.
Phía Nga công bố trước khi JIT nói đây:
Báo Nga viết về thông cáo báo chí của người đứng đầulwucj lượng ra đa Nga Andrei Koban:
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Андрей Кобан: «В период, предшествовавший
крушению лайнера, приближения каких-либо воздушных объектов к нему с восточной стороны, в том числе со стороны населенного пункта Снежное (на момент катастрофы контролировался ополчением Донбасса — ред.) не обнаружено».
Представитель ВКС отметил: «
если бы малайзийский Boeing сбила ракета, выпущенная из района, находящегося восточнее точки катастрофы, она была бы обнаружена российским первичным локатором».
Кобан также рассказал: кроме информации о воздушных судах, находящихся в районе полета лайнера, радиолокационный комплекс обнаружил полет беспилотника «Орлан-10», который барражировал вдоль российско-украинской границы на территории РФ.
По его словам, этот летательный аппарат имеет длину около двух метров, планер беспилотника выполнен в основном из композитных материалов, «что дополнительно затрудняет его обнаружение средствами РЛС».
Андрей Кобан: «По сравнению с беспилотником ракета ЗРК „Бук“ имеет длину более пяти с половиной метров, диаметр 0,4 метра, размах рулей — около одного метра. Ракета выполнена из металла, имеет большую эффективную отражающую поверхность по сравнению с БПЛА и представляет собой цель, более простую для обнаружения РЛС».
Кобан сообщил, что Boeing начал разрушаться в 13:20, и «в дальнейшем на протяжении восьми минут на первичном радиолокаторе отчетливо наблюдается развитие катастрофы — крушение самолета».
Tóm tắt là dùng đài ra đa quân sự, từ Rostov soi sang phía Đông thấy cả một cái UAV Orlan-10 dài 2m bằng nhựa (khó bị ra đa nhìn thấy) đang đi tuần trên đất Nga dọc biên giới Nga-U mà chả thấy cái Buk nào (dài 5,5 mét) bang sắt từ phía rì beo phi lên cả.
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Một anh khác dung đài Utes-1 dân sự cũng bảo phía Đông không có gì lạ.:
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The representative of Russian defense Ministry major General Igor Konashenkov said confirmed the fact of presence of Ukrainian air defense assets in the disaster area. Photo: mil.ru
First, the briefing was made by the representative of Lianozovsky Electromechanical factory which is a manufacturer of EN-route radar systems, which are used in the system of air traffic control, Victor Mescheryakov. He said that the information received by factory specialists after studying data from Russian radar “Utes-1, which worked at the time of the disaster in the district of village Ust-Donetskiy, allow us to conclude that the radar “Utes-T” were not recorded closer to the collapsed in Ukraine Malaysian Boeing any aerial objects from the Eastern regions of Donbass, in addition to two civilian planes that were parallel courses. The first ship crossed paths with Boeing long before the accident, and another in that moment was him at 30 km at the same time, he said, the Rostov radar station at 13.20 17 Jul 2014 watched the beginning of the destruction of the liner. He broke into three large pieces that were seen on the radar screen. “At the same time in close proximity to the Malaysian aircraft Ust-Donetsk radar did not observe any foreign objects that could cause its destruction,” said Meshcheryakov."
Dù sao, Deja vu, tất nhiên là Tây chỉ tin đài Tây, dù chúng ta biết rang Hà Lan cũng công nhận có hai cái AWacs thần thánh đang lượn ở Ba Lan nagy đấy cũng chả nhìn thấy gì, nhưng không sao, anh sẽ vẽ ra vòng tròn bóp Nga, hoặc ít ra cũng tạo tý nghi ngờ.
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