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Because we made a mistake made. It took too long to get it right. Took too long to get it right. I’ll be President of the United States, not Vice President of the United States.
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Kristen Welker: (
32:37)
We’re going to talk about immigration now, gentlemen. And we’re going to talk about families within this context. Mr. President, your administration separated children from their parents at the border, at least 4,000 kids. You’ve since reversed your zero tolerance policy, but the United States can’t locate the parents of more than 500 children. So how will these families ever be reunited?
Donald Trump: (
32:57)
Children are brought here by coyotes and lots of bad people, cartels…
Donald Trump: (
33:02)
[inaudible 00:33:00] and lots of bad people, cartels, and they’re brought here and they used to use them to get into our country. We now have as strong a border as we’ve ever had. We’re over 400 miles of brand new wall. You see the numbers. And we let people in, but they have to come in legally and they come in through [crosstalk 00:00:17]-
Kristen Welker: (
33:17)
But how will you reunite these kids with their families, Mr. President?
Donald Trump: (
33:20)
But let me just tell you. Let me just tell you. They built cages. They used to say I built the cages, and then they had a picture in a certain newspaper, and it was the picture of these horrible cages and they said, “Look at these cages. President Trump built them.” And then it was determined they were built in 2014. That was him. They built cages.
Kristen Welker: (
33:39)
Do you have a plan to reunite the kids with their families?
Donald Trump: (
33:39)
Yes. We’re working on it very… We’re trying very hard. But a lot of these kids come out without the parents. They come over through cartels and through coyotes and through gangs.
Kristen Welker: (
33:48)
Vice President Biden, let me bring you into this conversation. Quick response, and then another question to you.
Joe Biden: (
33:52)
These 500-plus kids came with parents. They separated them at the border to make it a disincentive to come to begin with. “Be real tough. We’re really strong.” And guess what? They cannot… Coyotes didn’t bring them over. Their parents were with them. They got separated from their parents. And it makes us a laughingstock and violates every notion of who we are as a nation.
Kristen Welker: (
34:18)
Let me ask you a followup question.
Donald Trump: (
34:19)
Kristen, they did it. We changed the policy. They did it. We changed.
Kristen Welker: (
34:22)
Your response to that?
Joe Biden: (
34:22)
We did not separate the [crosstalk 00:34:25]-
Donald Trump: (
34:26)
They built the cages. Who built the cages, Joe?
Joe Biden: (
34:27)
Let’s talk about what we’re talking about.
Donald Trump: (
34:28)
Who built the cages, Joe?
Joe Biden: (
34:29)
Let’s talk about what we’re talking about. What happened? Parents were ripped… Their kids were ripped from their arms and separated, and now they cannot find over 500 of the sets of those parents, and those kids are alone. Nowhere to go. Nowhere to go. It’s criminal. It’s criminal.
Kristen Welker: (
34:49)
Let me ask you about [crosstalk 00:34:50] in 10 seconds and then I need to ask [crosstalk 00:34:53].
Donald Trump: (
34:50)
Kristen, I will say this. They went down. We brought reporters, everything. They are so well taken care of. They’re in facilities that were so clean.
Kristen Welker: (
34:58)
But some of them haven’t been reunited with their families.
Donald Trump: (
35:00)
They have gotten such good… But just ask one question. Who built the cages? I’d love you to ask him that. Who built the cages, Joe?
Kristen Welker: (
35:05)
Let me ask about your immigration policy, Mr. Vice President. The Obama Administration did fail to deliver immigration reform, which had been a key promise during the administration. It also presided over record deportations, as well as, family detentions at the border before changing course. So why should voters trust you with an immigration overhaul now?
Joe Biden: (
35:23)
Because we made a mistake made. It took too long to get it right. Took too long to get it right. I’ll be President of the United States, not Vice President of the United States. And the fact is I’ve made it very clear. Within a 100 days, I’m going to send to the United States Congress a pathway to citizenship for over 11 million undocumented people. And all of those so-called dreamers, those DACA kids, they’re going to be immediately certified again to be able to stay in this country and put on a path to citizenship. The idea that they are being sent home by this guy and they want to do that is they’ve gone to they’ve never seen before. I can imagine. You’re five years old. Your parents are taking across the Rio Grande River and it’s illegal. And you say, “Oh, no, Mom. Leave me here. I’m not going to go with you.” They been here. Many of them are model citizens. Over 20,000 of them are first responders out there taking care of people during this crisis. We owe them. We owe them.
Kristen Welker: (
36:24)
President Trump, your reaction.
Donald Trump: (
36:24)
Kristen, he had eight years to do what he said he was going to do. And I’ve changed. Without having a specific, we got rid of catch and release. We got rid of a lot of horrible things that they put in and that they lived with. But he had eight years he was Vice President. He did nothing except build cages to keep children in.
Kristen Welker: (
36:47)
Vice President Biden, your response.
Joe Biden: (
36:48)
The catch and release, you know what he’s talking about there? If in fact you had a family came across and they were arrested, they in fact were given a date to show up for their hearing. They were released. And guess what? They showed up for a hearing. And this is the first President in the history of the United States of America that anybody seeking asylum has to do it in another country. That’s never happened before in America. That’s never happened before in America. You come to the United States and you make your case that, “I seek asylum based on the following premise, why I deserve it under American law.” They’re sitting in squalor on the other side of the river.