[Funland] Em chính thức lên tiếng đòi hỏi.

[K3_52.21]

Em đề xuất thêm tội chạy ngược chiều trên cao tốc là âm mưu khủng bố và cố ý giết người không thành.

 

[ruou cu tom]

Chết 2 mạng mà 3=>10 năm quá nhẹ. Em chưa kể nếu bị tuyên 10 năm. Có tiền lại giảm còn 5 năm. Mà em nói thật ông nào chạy oto mà ko có tiền

Thế ko uống rượu đi bình thường va chạm giao thông Bình thuờng chết 2 người đi tù 3-10 năm thì nặng hay nhẹ?

 

[VW Golf]

Riêng lỗi uống rượu lái xe em thấy xxx bắt khá nghiêm túc. Tất nhiên không thể 100% chuẩn.

Tất cả mọi lỗi, tôi thấy các đồng chí vàng cứt nhà ta bắt rất chi là nghiêm túc, đặc biệt là những lỗi bị xử phạt.
Lý do thì để tôi hỏi chỗ cậu Lâm.

 

[enegie]

Em ủng hộ , tăng nặng hình phạt, tịch thu bằng vĩnh viễn!

 

[Dũng Ốc]

Em thấy nên làm thành dư luận

Đúng ạ. Một tiếng nói của tôi thì quá nhỏ bé. Nhưng 1000 người, 10.000 người, 100.000 người cùng lên tiếng thì sẽ khác. Nên chỉ ủng hộ tôi ở thớt này chưa đủ. Các bạn hãy copy bài viết và chia sẻ lên các group nhiều thành viên trên facebook, lên các diễn đàn khác để cùng lan toả.

 

[lambretta lambro]

https://nld.com.vn/thoi-su/tai-xe-x...vong-trong-ham-kim-lien-20190501095020333.htm

Tài xế xe Mercedes uống rượu bia, tông 2 phụ nữ tử vong trong hầm Kim Liên

(NLĐO)- Sử dụng bia rượu trước khi lái xe, tài xế Lê Trung Hiếu đã điều khiển ôtô hạng sang Mercedes gây tai nạn kinh hoàng, tông tử vong 2 phụ nữ đi xe máytrong hầm chui Kim Liên, Hà Nội.

Rất nhiều vụ tai nạn thảm khốc do uống rượu bia rồi lái xe.
Mức phạt nặng nhất mới chỉ 18 triệu đồng thực sự chưa đủ sức răn đe. Em chính thức lên tiếng qua các mạng xã hội yêu cầu Quốc hội nước CHXHCN Việt Nam nâng chế tài xử phạt TỘI điều khiển các phương tiện giao thông khi đã uống rượu bia lên mức TỘI hình sự, KỂ CẢ KHI CHƯA GÂY TAI NẠN. Với hình phạt tù giam hoặc lao động công ích, chế tài bổ sung là tước bằng lái tối thiểu 3 năm hoặc vĩnh viễn.

P/S: một tiếng nói của em thì quá nhỏ bé. Nhưng 1000 người, 10.000 người, 100.000 người cùng lên tiếng thì sẽ khác. Nên chỉ ủng hộ em ở thớt này chưa đủ. Các cụ các mợ hãy copy bài viết và chia sẻ lên các group nhiều thành viên trên facebook, lên các diễn đàn khác để cùng lan toả.
Cảm ơn các cụ, các mợ ủng hộ và chung tay!

Em đồng ý và ủng hộ cụ.

 

[lambretta lambro]

Uống nhiều thì lôi ra giữa ngã tư quật nát mông, nhẹ hơn thì ôm biển tuyên truyền đứng ở đèn đỏ cho nó nhục mà nhớ lâu

Sợ không đủ biển để ôm cụ ạ. Cứ thu bằng mấy tháng phạt nặng vào là chờn ngay.

 

[Lù Rù]

Em ủng hộ ý tưởng của cụ Ốc.
Tăng thuế với Rượu bia, tăng hình phạt (và phải làm nghiêm- không nể bố con thằng nào).
Ngoài ra: Công bố danh tính trên phương tiện truyền thông với người bị phạt lỗi uống rượu bia. Ai gây tai nạn do uống rượu bia thì tẩy chay như thằng Linh nựng.

 

[Victor Ban]

Ủng hộ cac cụ phát

 

[toyennha]

Thế ko uống rượu đi bình thường va chạm giao thông Bình thuờng chết 2 người đi tù 3-10 năm thì nặng hay nhẹ?

Nhẹ bác à!! Quan trọng là cái bồi thường có thỏa đáng ko

 

[laixe07]

Sợ không đủ biển để ôm cụ ạ. Cứ thu bằng mấy tháng phạt nặng vào là chờn ngay.

Em nghĩ nên coi việc uống rượu lái xe là hình vi vi phạm hình sự thì mới sợ được

 

[hdv]

Cụ chứng kiến vụ nào như thế này chưa? ( đi đúng luật mà 2 thằng nó lao vào đầu xe mình chết tại chỗ, bị đi tù vài năm.)

Thế ko uống rượu đi bình thường va chạm giao thông Bình thuờng chết 2 người đi tù 3-10 năm thì nặng hay nhẹ?

 

[hdv]

Đã đi ĐÚNG LUẬT thì làm sao GÂY tai nạn chết người được cụ???

Nhẹ bác à!! Quan trọng là cái bồi thường có thỏa đáng ko

 

[Mori]

Em hoàn toàn ủng hộ bác chủ thớt

 

[Sheldon]

Ủng hộ cụ chủ 2 tay 2 chân. Đây là câu chuyện của 1 bác bị xử tội lái xe khi uống rượu ở Đức. Cứ phải nặng thế này mới có tính răn đe

DUI - Not a Good Thing
By Peter Horvath

You have heard it and seen it time and time again: Don't drink and drive. In fact you may hear it so much that complacency sets in. Until the nightmare becomes your problem.

It was midnight and time to head home from a night of social interaction at my favorite pub. This particular night I decided not to call my usual taxi for the short ride home. Looking back, this decision was the most regrettable one I have made in 25 years of living in Germany. The most frightening of sights appeared in my rear view mirror on this short ride home: blue, flashing lights. A few minutes later, I was escorted inside the local polizei station where I was processed for drunken driving. I was immediately relieved of my German driver license (as well as my USA license) and taken home, with the arresting officer reminding me to "get a lawyer-you'll need it".

Since there was no personal or property damage and this was my first traffic violation, I assumed I would have my license back in weeks or at the most a few short months. Pay the fine and wait it out I thought.

I thought wrong, very wrong. What transpired after this was a course of events and financial burdens unlike anything I would wish on my worst of enemies.

It took 3 months to get the official paper work from the court officially charging me with "willful negligence" in driving under the influence. If convicted, this would stay on my record forever. This was my first battle to overcome. With my lawyer at my side, we appeared in court to challenge this and were successful. The charge was lowered to "simple negligence" while under the influence. I was assessed a several thousand Euro fine and a mandatory suspension of my driving privileges for 6 months. But, there was one mandated requirement that came as a shock to me. Because my BAL (blood alcohol level) was over 1,6% pro mille, I would have to successfully complete and pass what is referred to as the "idiot test" or MPU (Medizinisch - Psychologische Untersuchung).

The idiot test is named after one of three elements of this process. This particular element is a timed physical hand-eye coordination test and involves hand, eye, feet and hearing movement. This was the simplest of the 3 stages of the test. It is also one I personally advocate for all senior citizens in possession of a driver's license. A second element of the test was the doctor's physical examination that also involved a blood test. The blood is examined for a history of drinking habits. In order to pass this requirement, you must not have consumed alcohol for weeks prior and have not had a long and extensive drinking habit. This test was particularly complex for me because of my high levels of an enzyme called Gamma GT. In order to be exempt from this portion of the test, I underwent no fewer than 30 visits to my house doctor to monitor my Gamma levels. I did this during a period of 9 months and abstained from drinking altogether. With my Gamma levels still above what would be required to pass the test, I insisted on a liver biopsy. The biopsy confirmed that I was indeed not drinking and that my liver values were high due to other factors that were not life threatening. Although the biopsy was painful, the hardest part of the test was still ahead. I had to pass this final portion of the overall test or I would be rejected and have to wait at least 4 months to re-test.

The third and final part of the test to recover my driver's license was a long and extensive dialog with a Psychologist. You are asked a series of questions that require all correct answers (that are subjective at best.) The psychologist tries to determine if you can carry on in life with "some level" of controlled drinking or total abstinence. The questioning is extensive and intense. I had depended on the merits of a 4 month psychological "Freiungs" course to help me prepare for this psychological test. I felt confident after the completion of my test and had to wait 6 weeks to receive a letter telling me that I had failed.

Statistically, less than 70% pass this test on their first attempt. Failing the first attempt, I had to wait more than 4 months (suggested by the MPU institution) to retake the test. Only after spending Euro 1,500 with private, professional psychological counseling was I confident I could pass the test the second time I took it. The stakes, professionally and personally, were already too high. Three weeks after completing the second test, I was notified that I had passed.

What was the cost of regaining my license? Time, money and emotional stress for me as well as my family. I spent well over Euro 15,000 during this process. I lost productivity at work and became house-bound far too often. I forced this situation on my family. If I am ever faced with something as mundane and expected as a normal "polizei kontrol" and I have more than 0.03%BAL in my system, I will once again be without a license for no less than 2 years and have to repeat the entire process.


The responsibility of keeping your driver's license is not a right. As proverbial as it sounds, it is indeed a privilege. That is now quite clear to me and will never be taken for granted again.

https://www.howtogermany.com/pages/expat2.html

 

[Sheldon]

In the U.K. and Ireland, you may be sentenced to 6 months in jail. The average penalty in Japan for a DUI includes fines upwards of $6,000. In Japan, law enforcement has the discretion to determine whether you appear to “present a risk of driving improperly because of alcohol,” without testing the actual BAC. As a result many just report Japan as a zero tolerance country. The most notable part of Japan’s law is that every passenger in the car is liable if the driver is drunk and they agreed to ride! The philosophy is that anyone in the car with a drunk driver is enabling the driver to operate a vehicle intoxicated.

Even stricter, in Russia, where the BAC limit is .02, if you are convicted of drinking and driving, even once, you lose your license for life.

In addition to jail times, fines and loss of driving privileges, the following are also enforced in other countries:

• In Australia, the names of the offenders are sent to local newspapers for publication.
• In Poland, those convicted are required to attend multiple political lectures.
• In Norway, DUI offenders are sentenced to three weeks in jail, with hard labor.
• In Saudi Arabia, DUI offenses are punishable by lashes in the public square.
• In South Africa, DUI offenders are fined $10,000 and/or a ten-year prison sentence.
• In El Salvador, a DUI conviction can mean a death sentence!

The bottom line is that drunk driving costs lots of money, lots of freedom, and most importantly, a lot of lives. Your best bet outside of the U.S., as well as here at home, is to always have a designated driver, call a cab, take a bus or the subway before getting behind the wheel.

https://www.lifesafer.com/blog/drinking-driving-outside-us/

 

[hdv]

Chữ giun dế gì thế cụ? Ở đây toàn cụ chạy grab thôi không có biết ngoại ngữ đâu

Ủng hộ cụ chủ 2 tay 2 chân. Đây là câu chuyện của 1 bác bị xử tội lái xe khi uống rượu ở Đức. Cứ phải nặng thế này mới có tính răn đe

DUI - Not a Good Thing
By Peter Horvath

You have heard it and seen it time and time again: Don't drink and drive. In fact you may hear it so much that complacency sets in. Until the nightmare becomes your problem.

It was midnight and time to head home from a night of social interaction at my favorite pub. This particular night I decided not to call my usual taxi for the short ride home. Looking back, this decision was the most regrettable one I have made in 25 years of living in Germany. The most frightening of sights appeared in my rear view mirror on this short ride home: blue, flashing lights. A few minutes later, I was escorted inside the local polizei station where I was processed for drunken driving. I was immediately relieved of my German driver license (as well as my USA license) and taken home, with the arresting officer reminding me to "get a lawyer-you'll need it".

Since there was no personal or property damage and this was my first traffic violation, I assumed I would have my license back in weeks or at the most a few short months. Pay the fine and wait it out I thought.

I thought wrong, very wrong. What transpired after this was a course of events and financial burdens unlike anything I would wish on my worst of enemies.

It took 3 months to get the official paper work from the court officially charging me with "willful negligence" in driving under the influence. If convicted, this would stay on my record forever. This was my first battle to overcome. With my lawyer at my side, we appeared in court to challenge this and were successful. The charge was lowered to "simple negligence" while under the influence. I was assessed a several thousand Euro fine and a mandatory suspension of my driving privileges for 6 months. But, there was one mandated requirement that came as a shock to me. Because my BAL (blood alcohol level) was over 1,6% pro mille, I would have to successfully complete and pass what is referred to as the "idiot test" or MPU (Medizinisch - Psychologische Untersuchung).

The idiot test is named after one of three elements of this process. This particular element is a timed physical hand-eye coordination test and involves hand, eye, feet and hearing movement. This was the simplest of the 3 stages of the test. It is also one I personally advocate for all senior citizens in possession of a driver's license. A second element of the test was the doctor's physical examination that also involved a blood test. The blood is examined for a history of drinking habits. In order to pass this requirement, you must not have consumed alcohol for weeks prior and have not had a long and extensive drinking habit. This test was particularly complex for me because of my high levels of an enzyme called Gamma GT. In order to be exempt from this portion of the test, I underwent no fewer than 30 visits to my house doctor to monitor my Gamma levels. I did this during a period of 9 months and abstained from drinking altogether. With my Gamma levels still above what would be required to pass the test, I insisted on a liver biopsy. The biopsy confirmed that I was indeed not drinking and that my liver values were high due to other factors that were not life threatening. Although the biopsy was painful, the hardest part of the test was still ahead. I had to pass this final portion of the overall test or I would be rejected and have to wait at least 4 months to re-test.

The third and final part of the test to recover my driver's license was a long and extensive dialog with a Psychologist. You are asked a series of questions that require all correct answers (that are subjective at best.) The psychologist tries to determine if you can carry on in life with "some level" of controlled drinking or total abstinence. The questioning is extensive and intense. I had depended on the merits of a 4 month psychological "Freiungs" course to help me prepare for this psychological test. I felt confident after the completion of my test and had to wait 6 weeks to receive a letter telling me that I had failed.

Statistically, less than 70% pass this test on their first attempt. Failing the first attempt, I had to wait more than 4 months (suggested by the MPU institution) to retake the test. Only after spending Euro 1,500 with private, professional psychological counseling was I confident I could pass the test the second time I took it. The stakes, professionally and personally, were already too high. Three weeks after completing the second test, I was notified that I had passed.

What was the cost of regaining my license? Time, money and emotional stress for me as well as my family. I spent well over Euro 15,000 during this process. I lost productivity at work and became house-bound far too often. I forced this situation on my family. If I am ever faced with something as mundane and expected as a normal "polizei kontrol" and I have more than 0.03%BAL in my system, I will once again be without a license for no less than 2 years and have to repeat the entire process.


The responsibility of keeping your driver's license is not a right. As proverbial as it sounds, it is indeed a privilege. That is now quite clear to me and will never be taken for granted again.

https://www.howtogermany.com/pages/expat2.html

 

[xemay_oto89]

Em ủng hộ

 

[laixe07]

Ủng hộ cụ chủ 2 tay 2 chân. Đây là câu chuyện của 1 bác bị xử tội lái xe khi uống rượu ở Đức. Cứ phải nặng thế này mới có tính răn đe

DUI - Not a Good Thing
By Peter Horvath

You have heard it and seen it time and time again: Don't drink and drive. In fact you may hear it so much that complacency sets in. Until the nightmare becomes your problem.

It was midnight and time to head home from a night of social interaction at my favorite pub. This particular night I decided not to call my usual taxi for the short ride home. Looking back, this decision was the most regrettable one I have made in 25 years of living in Germany. The most frightening of sights appeared in my rear view mirror on this short ride home: blue, flashing lights. A few minutes later, I was escorted inside the local polizei station where I was processed for drunken driving. I was immediately relieved of my German driver license (as well as my USA license) and taken home, with the arresting officer reminding me to "get a lawyer-you'll need it".

Since there was no personal or property damage and this was my first traffic violation, I assumed I would have my license back in weeks or at the most a few short months. Pay the fine and wait it out I thought.

I thought wrong, very wrong. What transpired after this was a course of events and financial burdens unlike anything I would wish on my worst of enemies.

It took 3 months to get the official paper work from the court officially charging me with "willful negligence" in driving under the influence. If convicted, this would stay on my record forever. This was my first battle to overcome. With my lawyer at my side, we appeared in court to challenge this and were successful. The charge was lowered to "simple negligence" while under the influence. I was assessed a several thousand Euro fine and a mandatory suspension of my driving privileges for 6 months. But, there was one mandated requirement that came as a shock to me. Because my BAL (blood alcohol level) was over 1,6% pro mille, I would have to successfully complete and pass what is referred to as the "idiot test" or MPU (Medizinisch - Psychologische Untersuchung).

The idiot test is named after one of three elements of this process. This particular element is a timed physical hand-eye coordination test and involves hand, eye, feet and hearing movement. This was the simplest of the 3 stages of the test. It is also one I personally advocate for all senior citizens in possession of a driver's license. A second element of the test was the doctor's physical examination that also involved a blood test. The blood is examined for a history of drinking habits. In order to pass this requirement, you must not have consumed alcohol for weeks prior and have not had a long and extensive drinking habit. This test was particularly complex for me because of my high levels of an enzyme called Gamma GT. In order to be exempt from this portion of the test, I underwent no fewer than 30 visits to my house doctor to monitor my Gamma levels. I did this during a period of 9 months and abstained from drinking altogether. With my Gamma levels still above what would be required to pass the test, I insisted on a liver biopsy. The biopsy confirmed that I was indeed not drinking and that my liver values were high due to other factors that were not life threatening. Although the biopsy was painful, the hardest part of the test was still ahead. I had to pass this final portion of the overall test or I would be rejected and have to wait at least 4 months to re-test.

The third and final part of the test to recover my driver's license was a long and extensive dialog with a Psychologist. You are asked a series of questions that require all correct answers (that are subjective at best.) The psychologist tries to determine if you can carry on in life with "some level" of controlled drinking or total abstinence. The questioning is extensive and intense. I had depended on the merits of a 4 month psychological "Freiungs" course to help me prepare for this psychological test. I felt confident after the completion of my test and had to wait 6 weeks to receive a letter telling me that I had failed.

Statistically, less than 70% pass this test on their first attempt. Failing the first attempt, I had to wait more than 4 months (suggested by the MPU institution) to retake the test. Only after spending Euro 1,500 with private, professional psychological counseling was I confident I could pass the test the second time I took it. The stakes, professionally and personally, were already too high. Three weeks after completing the second test, I was notified that I had passed.

What was the cost of regaining my license? Time, money and emotional stress for me as well as my family. I spent well over Euro 15,000 during this process. I lost productivity at work and became house-bound far too often. I forced this situation on my family. If I am ever faced with something as mundane and expected as a normal "polizei kontrol" and I have more than 0.03%BAL in my system, I will once again be without a license for no less than 2 years and have to repeat the entire process.


The responsibility of keeping your driver's license is not a right. As proverbial as it sounds, it is indeed a privilege. That is now quite clear to me and will never be taken for granted again.

https://www.howtogermany.com/pages/expat2.html

Cụ làm ơn dịch hộ tý đi

 

[Miniboss]

https://nld.com.vn/thoi-su/tai-xe-x...vong-trong-ham-kim-lien-20190501095020333.htm

Tài xế xe Mercedes uống rượu bia, tông 2 phụ nữ tử vong trong hầm Kim Liên

(NLĐO)- Sử dụng bia rượu trước khi lái xe, tài xế Lê Trung Hiếu đã điều khiển ôtô hạng sang Mercedes gây tai nạn kinh hoàng, tông tử vong 2 phụ nữ đi xe máytrong hầm chui Kim Liên, Hà Nội.

Rất nhiều vụ tai nạn thảm khốc do uống rượu bia rồi lái xe.
Mức phạt nặng nhất mới chỉ 18 triệu đồng thực sự chưa đủ sức răn đe. Em chính thức lên tiếng qua các mạng xã hội yêu cầu Quốc hội nước CHXHCN Việt Nam nâng chế tài xử phạt TỘI điều khiển các phương tiện giao thông khi đã uống rượu bia lên mức TỘI hình sự, KỂ CẢ KHI CHƯA GÂY TAI NẠN. Với hình phạt tù giam hoặc lao động công ích, chế tài bổ sung là tước bằng lái tối thiểu 3 năm hoặc vĩnh viễn.

P/S: một tiếng nói của em thì quá nhỏ bé. Nhưng 1000 người, 10.000 người, 100.000 người cùng lên tiếng thì sẽ khác. Nên chỉ ủng hộ em ở thớt này chưa đủ. Các cụ các mợ hãy copy bài viết và chia sẻ lên các group nhiều thành viên trên facebook, lên các diễn đàn khác để cùng lan toả.
Cảm ơn các cụ, các mợ ủng hộ và chung tay!

Ủng hộ bác 2 tay, kiến nghị lên quốc hội. EM sẽ cho lên page em đang quản lý.